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Shadi Bartsch: evaluation

21 Apr 2021 Conversations with Tyler Shadi Bartsch on the Classics and China

“I would not because there’s not much value for most Latinists in spoken Latin or spoken ancient Greek because that’s not how they’re taught.”

— Shadi Bartsch

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Shadi Bartsch
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evaluation
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21 Apr 2021
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Conversations with Tyler

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…But say you were doing it now, I mean. Would you get online and have Zoom calls with monks or not? [laughter] I would not because there’s not much value for most Latinists in spoken Latin or spoken ancient Greek because that’s not how they’re taught. There are a few people who teach them as spoken languages. I think they’re still spoken on some occasions in the Vatican. But who would I speak Latin to? There’s nobody around. We’re only taught it as a written, unspoken language, which is why it’s so effective to do it with a textbook, and you don’t need an app on your iPhone to do it. I did take eight years of Mandarin, and there, I would say, do not try to learn Mandarin using a textbook. You absolutely must be in a classroom with a native Chinese speaker, or what comes out of your mouth will not be Mandarin. It will be something that nobody will understand. Or worst-case scenario, it’ll actually mean something but the wrong thing, and that happened to me many times. Before I started classes, and I was just teaching myself by reading, one of the expressions I thought I had learned was “excuse me.” When I said it in China, people would jump and look at me suspiciously. It turned out, I found out later, that I wasn’t saying, “excuse me.” I was saying, “Please smell me.” That’s the kind of mistake that’s possible. From reading the Romans, what might we learn about the psychology of power that we don’t already know?…

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