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Alison Gopnik: evaluation

17 Dec 2025 Conversations with Tyler Alison Gopnik on Childhood Learning, AI as a Cultural Technology, and Rethinking Nature vs. Nurture

“some of the Freudians have been very enthusiastic about the work that people like me and my colleagues have done because, I think, the intuition that there was more going on in even little infants, that even small babies and young children could make inferences about the social world around them or the psychological world around them, and that was influencing how they grew up — I think that idea has turned out to be right, and it wasn’t obvious that that was going to turn out to be right.”

— Alison Gopnik

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Alison Gopnik
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17 Dec 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…Is there anything in Freud’s understanding of childhood that’s really held up? That’s a good question and a complicated question. When I first started doing the work that we do now, Freud was — and Freud still is — I think rather surprisingly to the intellectual world in general — it just doesn’t show up in modern psychology. Even having someone teach a class about Freud would be unusual. I don’t think anyone does in Berkeley’s department, which is the best department in the country. On the other hand, some of the ideas . . . some of the Freudians have been very enthusiastic about the work that people like me and my colleagues have done because, I think, the intuition that there was more going on in even little infants, that even small babies and young children could make inferences about the social world around them or the psychological world around them, and that was influencing how they grew up — I think that idea has turned out to be right, and it wasn’t obvious that that was going to turn out to be right. What in Piaget has held up the best?…

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