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31 Oct 2023 Dwarkesh Podcast Paul Christiano — Preventing an AI takeover

“It's not the case that humans could defend them from an invasion on their own. So that is if you had invading army and you had your own robot army, you can't just be like, we're going to turn off the robots now because things are going wrong if you're in the middle of a war.”

— Paul Christiano

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Paul Christiano
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31 Oct 2023
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…In that case, yeah. What is going off the rails look like? For example, how would it take over the government? Yeah, it's getting deployed in the economy, in the world, and at some point it's in charge. How does that transition happen? Yeah, so this is going to depend a lot on what kind of timeline you're imagining, or there's sort of a broad distribution, but I can fill in some random concrete option that is in itself very improbable. Yeah, I think that one of the less dignified, but maybe more plausible routes is like, you just have a lot of AI control over critical systems, even in running a military. And then you have the scenario that's a little bit more just like a normal coup where you have a bunch of AI systems, they in fact operate. It's not the case that humans can really fight a war on their own. It's not the case that humans could defend them from an invasion on their own. So that is if you had invading army and you had your own robot army, you can't just be like, we're going to turn off the robots now because things are going wrong if you're in the middle of a war. Okay, so how much does this world rely on race dynamics where we're forced to deploy or not forced, but we choose to deploy AIS because other countries or other companies are also deploying AIS. And you can't have them have all the killer robots.…

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