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Lenny Rachitsky: evaluation

2 Feb 2023 Lenny's Podcast How to foster innovation and big thinking | Eeke de Milliano (Retool, Stripe)

“It grew and became enterprisey down the road. Retool, on the other hand, I think people think it's product-led growth.”

— Lenny Rachitsky

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Lenny Rachitsky
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evaluation
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2 Feb 2023
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Lenny's Podcast

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…Oh, yeah. Well, we built many... Basically, all of our internal tooling happens in Retool. Like, our PMs, all their team dashboards are in Retool. All of their task tracking is in Retool. Submitting linear requests or bug requests happens in Retool, and then goes to Linear. So yeah, it's how we run the company. You haven't been able to replace Linear yet? That's cool. I'm a big fan of Linear. Okay, two more questions and then I'll let you go. One is around product growth. Which, I don't want to get too into. We've talked about it a bunch on this podcast. But, it's interesting that Stripe was very product-led growth. It was just self-serve PMs, engineers, whoever, just started using it. It grew and became enterprisey down the road. Retool, on the other hand, I think people think it's product-led growth. I imagine it's actually sales-led, mostly. And so, I'm just curious what you've learned about the difference between building product and leading product teams within a sales-led org, versus a product-led org. I have a couple of insights on that. One interesting insight is that, teams that have one always want the other.…

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