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23 Apr 2026 The Cognitive Revolution Does Learning Require Feeling? Cameron Berg on the latest AI Consciousness & Welfare Research
“I think we are going to get a artificially inflated rating and a sort of happier than maybe is actually under the hood account out of interviews like that.”
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…ur your outro music. It's getting really good. Claude is getting great at writing lyrics. i sometimes do have to give feedback but sometimes the lyrics these days out of the box are just like amazing. And then Suno makes the music and the like I'm I'm getting like bangers with like a increasing frequency. And then I'm trying to make music videos of those and I am telling and I don't really care what they look like. Honestly. ic and the like I'm I'm getting like bangers with like a increasing frequency. And then I'm trying to make music videos of those and I am telling and I don't really care what they look like. Honestly. i'm just like i'm purely doing it for the open ended see what comes out and i'll like post them. I didn't actually even posted any of these yet, but I intend to kind of do a thread of like the evolution of music videos for these songs where I'm really just saying to Claude kind of at each turn, like, that's cool. For the next one, let's like turn it up another notch. Let's make it even more creative. Let's like do an even better job of telling the story of the song. And I've just found myself using this phrase over and over again. Trust your judgement and have fun. And I'm just kind of trying to see where it's going to go. So again, I'm like, that's just one instance in a sense, although it's sort of in a kind of multiverse sense. It's like relatively close neighbors with all the other threads that it's doing for me, right? Like it also wrote the song and it also like processed the transcript of that episode and it also like picked the clips, you know, that I'm going to post to social media from that episode. So it's kind of it's spent like a lot of time in this kind of general space, even if it's not all purely autoregressively connected. And so that to me feels like it's in a, in some sort of multiverse, like dense enough cluster that when I give it this like 1 area to go, you know, trust its judgement and have fun and explore its own creativity that I feel like I'm kind of doing right by the overall family of instances somehow. So that was all just to say, like, I don't think I'm going to, I, I feel like I'm able to tell myself a story where I'm a good guy or, you know, so many, so many roads to hell may be paved with those kinds of stories, but I'm still doing it. And I don't think I'm going to stop. And I am conscious that I might be wiggling my way out of it. But I do also think there is a disconnect with that I observe in humans a lot of times too, both and it can go, it can cut both ways. I mean, this, I'm reminded too of your, your, I think, very productive habit of mind to say like, you know, what had what if the what if it's going the other way, You know, from what we observe, I think if anything, people maybe are like telling a more happy story. I guess it also depends on for whose consumption, right? But like you ask a person in an interview setting, how's your life going? How happy are you? I mean, this may be culturally dependent as well, but certainly like the sort of person that you and I are and like the people that we know and hang around with. I think we are going to get a artificially inflated rating and a sort of happier than maybe is actually under the hood account out of interviews like that. But then in other in other framings, I could imagine too, that you might get a with the right prompt, the right nudges, you might get people to sort of reflect on their on weave. You know, that isn't like front of mine most of the time, but can be brought to mind. ou might get a with the right prompt, the right nudges, you might get people to sort of reflect on their on weave. You know, that isn't like front of mine most of the time, but can be brought to mind. Then we do see in the system cartoon that like the susceptibility to nudging has significantly dropped, which you right to call out. I don't know. I don't think I can really land this plane in terms of how it makes me feel. I think I just have to go back to confused and probably not going to quit using it. That's I think. I think that's really all I can say with confidence in the moment.…
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