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Alison Gopnik: belief

17 Dec 2025 Conversations with Tyler Alison Gopnik on Childhood Learning, AI as a Cultural Technology, and Rethinking Nature vs. Nurture

“On the surface, it just looks like baby, kid crawling around doing a bunch of things, and a bunch of things are happening, but I think you’d find that there was much more systematic relationships between what happens, what the baby does next, what the outcome is, than you might think on the surface.”

— Alison Gopnik

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Alison Gopnik
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belief
Recorded
17 Dec 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…What do you want to test? Let’s say you have that set up. You hire the assistants. You have the quant people. What hypothesis do you want to look at? Again, what I’d really like to know is, how is it that the kids experiment? If you just took that GoPro data and you looked at what did the child do? What happened just before the child did that? What was the consequence of what the child did in terms of their data, their experience? I think that would be really interesting to analyze. My hypothesis is that you’d find that that was actually much more systematic than it looks on the surface. On the surface, it just looks like baby, kid crawling around doing a bunch of things, and a bunch of things are happening, but I think you’d find that there was much more systematic relationships between what happens, what the baby does next, what the outcome is, than you might think on the surface. A lot of those are going to be in the service of how could I figure out what’s going on in the world? What does it mean to say babies are more conscious than we are?…

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